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M81 & M82 - Bode's Galaxy & The Cigar Galaxy

Updated: May 18, 2023

Spiral galaxy Messier 81 and starburst galaxy Messier 82 are two galaxies often photographed together as a pair in the constellation Ursa Major. M81 and M82 are great broadband targets that are easy for beginner astrophotographers. They are also rich in hydrogen-alpha gas, especially the starburst galaxy M82. M81 and M82 are best imaged in Spring.


Object Designation: M81 & M82

Also known as: Bode's Galaxy & The Cigar Galaxy

Constellation: Ursa Major

Object Type: Spiral Galaxy & Spiral Starburst Galaxy

Distance: 3,650 light-years away

Magnitude: 6.94 & 8.41

Discovered in: 1774 by Johann Elert Bode



M81 and M82 in Infrared - NASA
M81 and M82 in Infrared - NASA

The photo on the right shows Messier 81 and Messier 82 in infrared.


As you can see, the Cigar Galaxy (right) is incredibly bright and looks almost as large as M81 in infrared! This is because of its extreme starburst activity, which we'll talk about more in-depth below!





We captured M81 and M82 several times. We'll show you all our attempts in this post!



 


Revealing as much IFN as possible around M81 and M82

March 2022 - Bortle 2


Here is my latest attempt at M81 and M82. The data was obtained using Utah Desert Remote Observatories. Be sure to read the full story about how this image was captured just below!


I processed this image using PixInsight with the main goal of bringing out as much IFN as possible.


This is very difficult to do and meant I had to sacrifice a great amount of detail in the actual galaxies. I also had to accept a rather annoying amount of noise from the background space. But because my priority was to display as much of the IFN as I could, I am okay with the result. M81 is still beautiful and the starburst galaxy M82 shows a ton of Hydrogen Alpha which is great!


M81and M82 swimming in a sea of IFN. Click the image to see it in higher resolution

M81 and M82 galaxies with a ton of IFN gas processed with PixInsight

GEAR USED:

Camera: ZWO ASI6200MM

Telescope: Takahashi FSQ-106

Processing: Pixinsight, with RC-Astro plugins

ACQUISITION DETAILS:

Total Exposure Time: 20.25 hours (91 L, 26 R, 24 G, 25 B, 8 Ha)

Exposure Time per frame: Luminance: 600 seconds

R/G/B: 180 seconds

Ha: 600 seconds


 

The Story Behind the Image


Earlier this year, we collaborated with Craig Stocks, an astrophotographer from Utah who owns his own remote observatories in the desert. We imaged the Seagull Nebula together and each processed the data using our favorite software, Photoshop for Craig, and PixInsight for me. Be sure to visit our full blog post about the Seagull Nebula to see both results!


We also made a full video about using Photoshop Vs. PixInsight for processing astrophotography images. While editing the video, I really wanted to also include a galaxy in there and not just a nebula, so I asked Craig if we could collaborate again but this time using M81 and M82. Craig is a pretty cool guy so he said yes. 😎




The area around Messier 81 and Messier 82 is fairly easy to process... if you only care about showing off the galaxies. Now, if you also want to reveal all of the hidden signals in the frame, which includes a very faint gas called IFN, processing now becomes extremely difficult.


Without the use of perfect masks, bringing out the faint IFN automatically blows up any deep-sky object present in the image. Because of that, it is crucial to be familiar with all sorts of masks when processing images full of IFN.


The only experience I had with IFN was with the Shark Nebula image I captured a year earlier. At the time, that was the most difficult object I ever had to process. Now, let me tell you that this image of M81 and M82 takes the number 1 spot for the hardest data to process. It took me many frustrating hours, as I struggled so hard to protect the galaxies as I worked on the IFN.


M81 and M82 galaxies with IFN processed with Photoshop.
M81 and M82 processed with Photoshop by Craig Stocks

On the right is Craig’s image using Photoshop. He did a really great job at protecting the galaxies and keeping a clean image overall.


The main difference between the two here is that I went with a much more aggressive approach in revealing the IFN, which also means that my image is much noisier than his.


Let us know what you think in the comments. I would say my image looks great on a small screen, like on a phone for example, but his image is much better when opened on a larger screen because of how clean it is.


Takahashi FSQ-106 and ASI6200MM

The equipment used for these shots, which you can see on the left, was obviously top-notch. It is controlled entirely remotely from anywhere in the world thanks to the Nuc computer and WiFi router attached to the rig.


The total integration time was just over 20 hours which is great from a Bortle 2 site. Doubling this amount would have likely made the final results cleaner and with much less noise.


If you would like to image from Craig's dark site, you can set up your entire astrophotography rig there for a monthly fee and image every single clear night remotely. You can learn more about this on the Utah Desert Remote Observatories website.


 

M81 and M82: Two Popular Astrophotography Targets in the Sky


Before showing you all our other attempts at imaging M81 and M82 with our beginner telescope setup and our portable wide-field rig, let's learn a bit more about our targets! Why are Bode's and the Cigar galaxies so popular for astrophotography? How large is M81 compared to M82? Why is M82 so red?

 

Messier 81 - Bode's Galaxy


M81 in Infrared - NASA
M81 in Infrared - NASA

Messier 81 is a Grand Design Spiral Galaxy seen face-on, meaning it has spiral arms that extend quite a bite away from the galactic center and are very well-defined. You can see how obvious the spiral arms are in the picture on the right.


The colors in Messier 81 are bright and beautiful. In both regular broadband images and infrared versions, you can see a clear division between the colors near the galactic center and the colors extending in the spiral arms.


This is also easily seen in amateur images, where blue dominates the arms while the core is bright yellow.




Johann Elert Bode portrait astronomer

M81's nickname is "Bode's Galaxy" after it was discovered by Johann Elert Bode in December of 1774.


Bode was a German astronomer, who lived from 1747 to 1826 and had a nice impact on astronomy.


For example, he is the one who came up with the name of the planet Uranus, and he even determined the planet's orbit!


What if Uranus was called... Bode? Surely there would be fewer silly jokes about it. 😅



M81 is a very active galaxy. It has a ton of star-forming regions full of hydrogen-alpha, as well as interstellar dust scattered throughout the spiral arms. Those are easily seen in the picture above as bright red areas.


Globular clusters in M81 galaxy

Besides these star-forming regions, Messier 81 is known to be home to more than 200 globular clusters!


I tried circling several of them in the image on the left after checking several maps online. I wanted to make sure I did not accidentally circle a star so I only circled what I was 100% sure was a globular cluster.



Bode's Galaxy is a great target for owners of large telescopes. If you plan on photographing this galaxy by itself, be sure to image it from a dark site preferably, and if possible, spend several full nights on it! We also recommend that you spend a few extra hours with a hydrogen-alpha filter to capture the many star-forming regions and areas of nebulosity within the spiral arms. These might show up without the filter but will pop up much more if you take the time to image in that wavelength as well.


 

Messier 82 - The Cigar Galaxy


Messier 82 by NASA
Messier 82 by NASA

M82 is very different from its neighbor M81. It is a starburst spiral galaxy seen edge-on, and so appears much smaller than the other. M82's galactic core is 100+ times brighter than the one in our Milky Way.


Messier 82 has got a pretty cool nickname, the "Cigar Galaxy". This is because of the intense starburst activity going on, expelling an incredible amount of hydrogen-alpha gas from its core in two opposite directions. This gas can be seen in fiery red in the image on the left.


M82 is the best example of a starburst galaxy as it is the largest and brightest object of this type in the night sky. This is a favorite galaxy for many amateur astrophotographers, including us!



Getting the hydrogen alpha gas expelling from M82 can be quite a challenge for beginner astrophotographers imaging with an unmodified DSLR camera. Getting your camera Astro-converted or using a DSLR Ha Clip-On filter is recommended for this target.


Messier 82 is located 11.42 million light-years away from us, and is the closest Starburst galaxy to Earth! Other examples of popular starburst galaxies include Centaurus A and the Antennae Galaxies.


The Supernova discovered in M82. Before and After.
The Supernova discovered in M82. Before and After.

In 2014, Steve Fossey, an astrophysics lecturer at the University of London Observatory, made an interesting discovery with 4 of his students.


They noticed that a new star, which wasn't there before on any image and couldn't be found in catalogs, just "popped up" in the galaxy.


Steve and his students determined that this new star was in fact a supernova, and the IAU classified it as a Type Ia supernova.


The same year, X-Ray data showed an extremely bright pulsar in the galaxy. It has a luminosity of 100 times what was believed to be possible before its discovery!



Find out more about different types of galaxies in our galaxy astrophotography page.

 

M81 and M82 with a Reflector Telescope and Cooled Astronomy Camera

February 2020 - Bortle 2


This was a huge disappointment. I was expecting this picture to look amazing, but it actually looks terrible. Let's go over what went wrong... and move on. 😅


  • I drove about 2 hours away from home to a Bortle 2 zone. This was my first time imaging seriously from such a dark site and I assumed that whatever I photographed would look awesome no matter how long I spent on it

  • I went there with a fancy telescope I had never used before, the Takahashi E-180

  • My priority was not to get a fantastic image but to make a video about the telescope. I was too distracted by that task

  • I photographed another target on that same night, the Rosette Nebula, instead of focussing all my attention on M81 and M82. Because of that, I only had 2 hours to spend on this second image


Here is the image below. It honestly makes me want to puke. Wait, hold on a second... 🤢🤮

Ok, I'm back. Scroll down for the acquisition details and more info on the telescope used.


M81 and M82 with the ASI1600MM and Tak E-180. Don't click to enlarge. It's not worth it

M81 and M82 with the ASI1600MM and Tak E-180

GEAR USED:

Telescope: Takahashi Epsilon-180

Acquisition: ZWO ASIAIR

Processing: Pixinsight


ACQUISITION DETAILS:

Total Exposure Time: 2 hours

Exposure Time per frame: 3 minutes

Filters: L/R/G/B

Gain: 139



I have to admit two things though:

  • There is some faint IFN visible! 🥳

  • There is some hydrogen alpha visible from the starburst activity in M82! 🥳


But besides that, everything else is terrible. The image is very noisy, the core of M81 looks terrible, the colors fade, the stars are blurry, and so on...


Takahashi E-180 under the stars
Me fighting with the guiding before switching targets

I also had some issues with guiding, because the mount was not cooperating that night, but I don't have the mental capacity to go deeper into that...


Let's make something clear though, this was entirely my fault and not the equipment's fault. The camera used (ASI1600MM) was one of the best entry-level mono cameras of the time, and the telescope is one of the best Newtonians made in the world.



The Takahashi E-180 is a fast (f/2.8) Hyperbolic Newtonian reflector telescope. At 500mm in focal length, it is great for capturing almost any nebulae, clusters, and large galaxies in the sky.

 

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M81 and M82 with a Reflector Telescope and Unmodified DSLR Camera

May 2017 - Bortle 4


This was the first time we were very happy with our final result of the pair of galaxies!


We drove about one hour out of the city to our imaging spot under a Bortle 4 sky. We only spent a total of 3 hours on it before getting sleepy and going back home. Bortle 4 is not excellent but it is fairly dark and good enough for astrophotography!


Below is our image of M81 and M82 from 2017 when we used our stock Canon DSLR camera and beginner Newtonian telescope. Notice how I was unable to show the starburst activity in the Cigar galaxy with the data acquired.


M81 and M82 galaxies with a stock DSLR camera and reflector telescope

GEAR USED:

Processing: Pixinsight

ACQUISITION DETAILS:

Total Exposure Time: 3 hours

Exposure Time per frame: 3 minutes

60 lights - 15 Darks - 15 Bias

ISO: 400


Bode's Galaxy and the Cigar Galaxy are not difficult targets for beginner astrophotographers, but there are two tricky areas:

  • The IFN, which we talked about earlier

  • The hydrogen alpha gas expelling from M82


If, like us, you used an unmodified DSLR camera, revealing the starburst activity in the Cigar Galaxy is no easy task. It is likely that you will struggle to bring out the HA regions, mostly because the IR Cut filter built in every stock DSLR and mirrorless camera will block most of that wavelength.



If M82 is one of your favorite galaxies out there, and you really want to get the best possible image of it despite owning a stock DSLR/mirrorless camera, here are a few options you could try:

  • Spend multiple full nights imaging it from a dark site (Bortle 2, Bortle 1)

  • Dedicate one extra night to image it with a DSLR Ha Clip-On filter then stack the Ha data with your other files

  • Consider modifying your camera for astrophotography, which will make it much more sensitive to hydrogen alpha. See the comparison image above.

  • If none of the above is possible, just have fun imaging it with your current camera as is. You'll have plenty of time to re-photograph this target in the future once you upgrade your camera!

 

Locating Bode's Galaxy and the Cigar Galaxy

How to find M81 and M82 in the night sky, map

Before jumping into the wide-field astrophotography of M81 and M82, let's first learn how to find the pair in the night sky.

Both galaxies are visible through binoculars and telescopes, but not with the naked eye. Depending on the instrument, M81 will look like a blurry oval shape with a bright center, while M82 will appear as a thin line of light.


The pair is located in the constellation Ursa Major (where the famous Big Dipper asterism is). The easiest way to find them is to first spot the bright star Dubhe, which forms the top point of the Big Dipper pan, then travel about 10 degrees northwest to spot the two galaxies.


The M81 Group of Galaxies.
The M81 Group of Galaxies. Credit: Atlas of the Universe

M81 and M82 are part of the M81 group of galaxies, which span from Ursa Major to Camelopardalis. This is one of the nearest galaxy groups to our Local Group. Both the Local Group and the M81 group are part of the Virgo Supercluster.


The 34 members in the M81 group of galaxies almost all have high apparent brightness, but M81 is the brightest and largest of them all!


M81 M82 gravitational forces.

Do Messier 81 and Messier 82 interact with one another?


The answer is yes.

Messier 81 has a very strong gravitational pull, and its tidal forces do impact Messier 82.


This can be seen in some images taken with special filters as you can see on the left. This gravitational pull not only affects M82 but other nearby galaxies.


These gravitational forces can affect the shape of a galaxy, but also increase its star-forming activity, as is the case with M82.




 

Cool Facts about M81 and M82

  • The pair were discovered together in 1774

  • M82 is the closest starburst galaxy to Earth

  • M81’s tidal forces affect M82 and increase its star-forming activity


 

Below you can watch the video we made about Messier 81. In the video, we give you tips to capture the best possible image of the galaxy and show you some of our previous attempts. We talk about imaging Bode's Galaxy with both a telescope and wide-field without a telescope.


This is a great resource for beginner astrophotographers looking to make M81 their next target!



 

Wide-Field Capture of M81 & M82


Although not the best for DSLR lens astrophotography, M81 and M82 can still be captured without a telescope. Below is our image of the pair using a 300mm lens on a Canon t3i and iOptron SkyTracker.


This was taken when we were just beginning astrophotography, and we know for sure it has a ton of room for improvement! We might decide to re-visit this image with our current mirrorless camera and star tracker, and most importantly with better processing skills. Watch out for an updated pic soon!


M81 and M82 astrophotography with a DSLR camera and star tracker

If you do not own a telescope or a sky tracker just yet, there is still hope! M81 and M82 are large enough and bright enough that you can photograph the pair with just a tripod, any DSLR camera, and any beginner lens.


M81 and M82 with a DSLR camera and tripod untracked

We used our old used Canon T3i and cheap 75-300mm lens to obtain the picture you see on the right.


Sure, it's not worthy of any award, but this proves that you also can photograph M81 and M82 without tracking the sky!


At this focal length (300mm or so), you'll have no choice but to take very short exposures, and recenter your camera every few minutes. We suggest aiming for about 3 hours of total integration time.


You can learn more about capturing deep-sky objects with just a DSLR camera and a tripod by reading our full guide!


 

Final Thoughts

Messier 81 and Messier 82 are two wonderful targets for any amateur astrophotographer. Whether you are a beginner astrophotographer or an advanced imager, you will always feel the need to photograph M81 and M82 over and over again to improve on your previous attempts.


A composite image of M82 using data from the HST, Spitzer, and Chandra Telescopes
A composite image using data from the HST, Spitzer, and Chandra Telescopes

When taking a photo of the two, make sure to double-check that both galaxies fit nicely in the frame of the camera. Spend as much time collecting photons as your patience will allow, and do not feel lazy to drive to a dark site, it is worth it for these targets!


If you are able to, add some extra hours of data using a hydrogen-alpha filter, which will help reveal the starburst activity expelling from M82, as well as the many star-forming regions in the spiral arms of M81.



Lastly, be prepared for a tough processing session. If you are a beginner, prioritize making the galaxies look as beautiful as possible instead of trying to bring up the IFN. If you are an advanced astrophotographer with lots of processing hours behind you, take the time to do many different masks and work on the galaxies and IFN separately. You might pull your hair a few times, but keep going at it!


Have you captured M81 and M82? Attach your image in the comments and let us know your acquisition details!


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Antoine & Dalia Grelin

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Craig Stocks
Craig Stocks
08 feb 2022

Until I saw your video I didn't realize there was so much dust between us and the Bode's Galaxy so I set out to capture as much as I could. I ended up with 55 luminance subs at 600s each which revealed a lot of dust. The challenge is deciding how much of the dust to feature in the final image since it can easily overwhelm the galaxies. I ended up doing both a blend and a starless monochrome version.




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Haha it's funny because I'm just now seeing this comment, no idea how I missed it. So beautiful and thank you Craig for the nice data!

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Dennis Ruzeski
Dennis Ruzeski
08 feb 2022

I love this area of the sky- Here's my M81/82, and Garland Galaxy from 2020.

This was take with a Celestron RASA 8 and ZWO ASI294MC. I can't remember if I still had my GCEM DX or if I had an Atlas EQ-G at this point.



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Nicolas Large
Nicolas Large
06 feb 2022

Here's my first and only (so far) attempt at the pair M81-M82.


Target: M81, M82

Date: 2021-01-13

Location: Garner State Park, TX (Bortle class 2)


Mount: IOptron SkyGuider Pro

Camera: Nikon D5300 astromod

Lens: Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 70-200mm f/2.8E FL ED VR Lens

Focal/Aperture: 200 mm @ f/2.8


Lights: 25x180s (total exposure: 1h15 min)

Calibration frames: 10xdarks, 30xbiases, no flats

ISO 800


Stacked in DDS and Processed in GIMP & Denoise AI



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Nicolas Large
Nicolas Large
15 ago 2022
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Reprocessed this image recently to pull out the dust and get more details out of the two galaxies.


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Craig Stocks
Craig Stocks
06 feb 2022

Your video prompted me to give it a go. This is around 9 each of red, green, blue and Ha for 600s each with the Takahashi FSQ106. I was able to pull out some o the dust cloud but I need to get more data to really do it justice.



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Earl Hebert
Earl Hebert
06 feb 2022

Finally had a clear night so I hit a previously imaged target to get some more data...specifically the Luminance channel. I'm using a different filter this time. Instead of Astrodon, I have Chroma filters now. I was able to add 5 hours to the lum channel and reprocessed with the rest of the existing data that I had. I think the results are pretty darn good especially in M82 - The Cigar Galaxy.


Target: M81 / M-82 Imaging Telescope: Explore Scientific ED127 CF Imaging Camera: ZWO ASI2600MM-Pro Guide Scope: William Optics 200mm f/4 Guide Camera: ZWO 290mm-Mini Mount: SkyWatcher EQ8R-Pro Polar Alignment: ASIAir Plus Bortle Class: 6 Frames: 22.16 Hours 210 x 180s (L) - 10.5 Hours 100 x 180s (R) - 5 Hours 100 x 120s (G) - 3.33…



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Very crisp! How do you like the Chroma LRGB? We have the Chroma SHO which we love but haven't bought the broadband ones yet :D

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